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James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites

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James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« on: July 25, 2010, 11:06:07 AM »
Who's the best Bond?  Doesn't matter, as they're all Bond!

That said, many actors have played the roll, and I'm curious which movies are your favourite and least favourite for each actor.  Perhaps a reason to justify why, too?

The exception being George Lazenby's one-off, of course.


Sean Connery:
Fav: Goldfinger (fun, and he uses his brain to get out of nasty situatioins)
Least: Diamonds Are Forever (it just hasn't aged well.)

Roger Moore:
Fav: The Man With The Golden Gun (again a lot of fun, some very interesting locales, and one of, if not the most memoriable evil side kick in the series).  Honourable mention to A View To A Kill (Christopher Walken, 'nough said)
Least: Octopussy (I get what they were going for... alas it just didn't come together very well)

Timothy Dalton:
Fav: The Living Daylights
Least: License to Kill (but it gets points for having a young Benicio del Toro in a role that just has you giggling)

Pierce Brosnan:
Fav: GoldenEye (Everything was done right in this movie)
Least: Die Another Day (ZOMG!!!1!!!11, what were they thinking when they approved the script for this movie?  It was just wrong, on so many levels.)

Daniel Craig:
Fav: Casino Royale (Everything was done right in this movie - wait, same director as GoldenEye?  Hmmm... shows, eh?)
Least: Quantum Of Solace (I get what they were going for... alas it just didn't come together very well.  It also suffers the problem of action scenes that are visually messy and sometimes nigh impossible to figure out what's going on.  When did the 1 or 2 second cuts become standard in the industry?!?)

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2010, 06:54:51 PM »
OHMSS:  Is the Best.

DAD & Moon Raker Equally Sux For the Same Reason.  The was some other new movie getting attention and makers of Bond felt the had to update Bond to match current tastes.   DAD was 007 answer to XXX.  Moon Raker was 007 answer to Star Wars.   But are very dated now.  Not in the good nostalgic way but the OMG people paid to see that crap.

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2010, 10:07:36 PM »
Ahh, so that's why DAD was that craptacular.  At the time it came out, I had a bunch of Korean friends, and they all ridiculed that movie.  Specifically the oh-so-wrong DMZ/border between the two Koreas (a bunch of those friends had actually served in the Korean Forces and been there), the depiction of North Korea in general (anyone who pays attention to the news would've understood how wrong DAD was), and casting a Chinese as the North Korean father/general.  My Korean is no where near good, but even I could tell that he was butchering the language.

And that's not even discussing the plot, pacing, action, special effects, or gadgets!


Moonraker is, well, silly fun.  If you can look at it like a big pile of cheese, it's good fun.  As a serious movie?  Nah...

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2010, 05:24:20 AM »
DAD is unmitigated suck, I can't believe how bad that film actually was. Sadly, after Goldeneye (which was totally awesome and probably my joint favourite alongside Casino Royale) Brosnan kept getting scripts which were incrementally worse in terms of quality, and he relied too much on the gadgets by the end. The stripped down Daniel Craig 007 seems a lot more realistic, I knew he'd make an excellent Bond having seen him in Munich (watch that film once, it's awesome, but don't watch it twice unless you really enjoy that sort of film).

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2010, 05:55:23 AM »
Nods.  After Goldeneye, it started going downhill.

That said, Tomorrow Never Dies had a lot of fun parts.  Probably the biggest bonus was Michelle Yeoh and some good ship-to-ship naval action.  Alas the villian was weakly motivated, weak, and had a forgettable henchman.  (Heh, weak villian makes me think of the one in Quantum of Solace.  At least that one had a logical, if not strong motivation, and had a memoriable ally.

The World is Not Enough was pretty decent.  Everything going for it except for the scientist Bond girl.  Holy bad casting, Batman!  The best plus is that it had a unique villian, and the twist with Sophie Marceau character was entertaining.

I think I'm going to pretend that DAD never existed.  Just like Alien3, Superman Returns, and so on.

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2010, 07:56:11 AM »
Tomorrow Never Dies was a pretty decent film, if they'd have cast Rupert Murdoch as the bad guy that would have easily made it the best Bond Film :D

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2010, 02:26:21 PM »
Side Bond Comment:

I'm rather sick about how they keep having to Make the Bond Girl his Equal.  She no longer is the innocent girl in bad situation or the Villain's kept woman.  Instead she's a Spy as well.  I find this offensive to Women.   At least the old style Bond girl had a excuse to need help.

The new Bond Girl should be capable of saving the day on her own.   Instead Bond has to do it.   That just seems more sexist to me.   Sure honey you can be a Doctor but a Man gonna perform surgery for you.   If they need an incompetent girl who needs rescuing don't make her a super spy too.
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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 12:14:17 PM »
Over the past few months, I've been (slowly) watching the James Bond movies from the very start.  Yesterday, I finished "You only live twice" (you know, the one where he gets married in Japan).

I have mixed thoughts about it.  On the one hand, I fell asleep about halfway through.  As a movie, it's just not that interesting during the middle parts.  (I ended up watching the first and second halves on different nights.  The 2nd half was much more interesting then the middle).

On the other hand, as a social scientist, I find the cultural differences between then and now most interesting.  In short, the Western clothes and social mores haven't aged that well.

Technology wise, it's a mixed bag.  Seeing a mercury rocket launch and the mercury capsule (model or otherwise) in action is great.  Recycling mercury launch footage as a Russian rocket?  That's just laughable.

Set wise, the movie is fantastic.  I kept wondering if the bag guy's base in the volcano was an actual set or a minature.  I think the explosions and rocket launches inside of it were done with minatures, but the rest...?  I kept thinking, they don't make movies on this scale.  Look closely and you can see a working monorail inside the enemy HQ!

Japan.  I live here, and have done so for... wow, getting close to a decade.  So, I found the Japan parts of the movie both the most interesting and the most agrivating.  I found the movie a nice comparision between the Japan of 40 or 50 years ago, and now.  Some things are timeless: yukata, the shinto wedding ceremony, the samurai.  Interesting insight into the culture both then and now.  On the other hand, I was blown away that the "ninja" training base was Himeji Castle!  I was actually thinking: wow, I've walked where James Bond walked/landed in a helicopter/did "ninja" training.  That was a mind trip.

On the other hand, there were a lot of things that the movie got wrong about Japan.  The whole ninja school is the biggest.  It came across more as a karate/samurai swordsmanship school, then actual ninja.  In fact, the only two characters that I felt were ninja, were the two assassins sent against JB: the one in the training school with the bladed staff, and the one who used the wire to poison.

In summary, watching the movie was a mind trip of: wow, Japan has changed.  Wow, parts of Japan's culture are timeless.  Wow, Western fads don't age well.  Keep awake.  Argh, that's just wrong on so many levels.  And wow, not only does Blofeld have really good makeup, he's a real bada$$.  Oh, and I kept being reminded of Austin Powers (despite having seen this movie before the AP movies!)

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2010, 05:54:44 PM »
i love Roger Moore and Sean Connery as 007, but I have to agree with Roy that On Her Majesty's Secret Service was the best Bond Movie EVER! I couldn't stop laughing all the way through it.

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 12:35:55 AM »
I disagree that OHMSS is the best Bond movie.  Simple reason: I fell asleep, twice no less, while watching it over 3 nights.  Going by this (the make you want to sleep factor), Goldfinger is the best, as I didn't fall asleep while watching it.  :P  It's got good pacing, it's ridiculously over the top, good motivations for both protagonists and antagonists, and a smart, insane bad guy (You expect me to talk?  I expect you to die.)

Anyhow, back to OHMSS:

As a James Bond movie, it wasn't good.  Why?  JB isn't played larger than life.  The whole movie is suddenly small in scale compared to the previous 3+ films.  The actor himself just doesn't seem comfortable the majority of the time, and despite his girlfriend/fiancee saying that he has oodles of confidence, he just doesn't come across as having that confidence.

Now, as a non-JB film?  It's great stuff.  I like the vulnerability of JB.  (Though, I didn't quite like him showing the ridiculousness of the situation in his expressions).

I also didn't like Bloefeld's actor.  Maybe that should be: I didn't like his portrayl of Bloefeld.  It was too jocular and buddy-buddy with his henchmen.  It didn't jive with the previous versions of Bloefeld (white cat?  Cold demeanor?  Nah).  When he sends henchmen to their doom it just seemed unnatural for the character at that point (compare with the immediately preceding and following films, where Bloefeld does just that, and it's believable.)

The music was great.  'nuff said.

The special effects haven't quite held up in parts.  However, as the majority are practical stunts, they've held up.

The best part of the movie is the relationship part.  There's genuine affection and emotion shown.  So when the twist end comes around, there's some real power.

After I finish the next 16 films, I'll watch OHMSS again, but this time not as a JB film.

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 12:41:43 AM »
Oh, over the previous two nights I watched "Diamond's are Forever".  Because I had to get up early the next morning for my son's Sports Day festival, I had to stop about 2/3 of the way through.  I have a feeling that it would've been the 2nd JB film that didn't put me to sleep!  LOL.  (Though the climactic battle was ho-hum.  Maybe that would've done it?  :lol: )

Anyhow, I found DAF great fun.  Great pacing.  Goofy humour.  Campy.  And a great reminder of Sean Connery's screen presence in the role.  (The material may not be believable, but he plays it like he believes in it.  The exact opposite of OHMSS, IMHO.)

Is DAF the best Bond film?  Hardly.  It has it's weaknesses.  Is it a fun ride?  Yes.  Did Bloefeld live up to his previous incarnations?  Sort of.  He wasn't as cold and calculating as in the pre-OHMSS films, but despite incorporating some of OHMSS version, he was believable that it was the same character.

EDIT: I should add, after some further thought, that probably the weakest part of DAF is that it is rather forgettable.  Alas.
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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 12:19:09 PM »
I guess I should have elaborated on why I though OHMSS was so awesome, which is because it is so over the top Craptacular. I love terrible films that make me laugh until I can't breath and OHMSS was spot on.  I love it from the action shots, which consist of the camera zooming in on someone throwing a punch or falling down, to the worlds worst bluescreen downhill ski chase. If only it had been made in the 1980's and had a band like Queen doing the soundtrack. They could have done for 007 what they did for Flash Gordon. "James! AH AH AH! He's a Miracle!"

I personally think Roger Moore was the best 007, but Connery is a close second.

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2010, 02:18:49 PM »
SACRILIGE!! Moore was no where neat Connery, Moore should of stayed as Simon Templar and never been Bond.

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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2010, 11:21:12 AM »
Personally, i find Pierce Brosnan to be the best Bond, but i'ved never saw one with simon craig. Moore look like a old oncle and is not credible as a chaming classy english men. Connery is not good with action; He look classy, but he dont look like a romantic guy. i'm not talking about the one who have done only one movie, i never remember him. Dalton was good for action and charms, but was not classy a bit. Brosnan is fun, classy, charming, and really can do action good.

By the way, Ian Flemming said that Dalton was his favorite Bond.
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Re: James Bond Movies: your most and least favourites
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2010, 12:15:17 PM »
By the way, Ian Flemming said that Dalton was his favorite Bond.

The Ian Fleming that died in 1964 said that?  About a guy who wasn't even born yet?  (1967)